hey guys,.
the family and i just got back from seeing the movie.
those of you who read the books will not be disappointed!
Here in Zurich they started showing it yesterday too, but I couldn't get good seats so I'm going tonight.
Funkyderek: my wild guess would be that Tom Bombadil is left out of the movie. Am I right?
Joseph Joachim, an overly-enthusiastic pundit of borderline reality
i just read this in yahoo about the huge economic problems that argentina is facing: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011219/wl/argentina_economy.html.
this is something that you know said that was going to happen and that it would be the start of future economic downfall all over the world.
The Argentinian government is preparing a major swap of bonds within the next couple of months. It's still not clear how compulsory it's going to be, but it is a technical default anyways. What is also uncertain is if the government will have the money for the payments due in January; most people bet it won't. Be it as it may, the default will not come as a surprise to anyone and the market has been accounting for it for a long time.
Joseph Joachim, an overly-enthusiastic pundit of borderline reality
some day maybe scientist will be able to read dna.. and maybe someday they might learn how to program dna with computers.. this to me doesn't seem that far away.. when they do they will be able to create new life forms, in effect play god.. do you think will man make life vastly better then when he can design it useing dna or someother molecule to make new life.. will altruisim guide him in what he does with his new abilities?.
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if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.
Yes Abbadon I think you're right, I switched read with decode. Then D wiltshire must have meant decode in his original post.
Joseph Joachim - a overly-enthusiastic pundit of borderline reality
some day maybe scientist will be able to read dna.. and maybe someday they might learn how to program dna with computers.. this to me doesn't seem that far away.. when they do they will be able to create new life forms, in effect play god.. do you think will man make life vastly better then when he can design it useing dna or someother molecule to make new life.. will altruisim guide him in what he does with his new abilities?.
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if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.
Actually scientist can't read the DNA of complex organisms yet. They can decode it, which is not the same thing. The process of identification of new genes will keep biologists (and statisticians) busy many decades. That's where the money is now
hello friends,.
it is not always easy to be an ex-jw.
that's why i have posted an .
Thanks for the link. I agree 100% with the girl who wrote it. Especially with this paragraph:
If you have to argue, be constructive--start a website, write a book, paint, start a support group, something like that. If you're seriously angry and you have a case, sue. Otherwise, move on.
A good piece of advice for "some of the finest posters" (AlanF dixit) who spend hours and hours arguing with You Know, Friday, Rex B13 and the like.
JJ
in 1975 jws had several things going for them.
the ex-jws that left because of earlier prophetic failures had no real way to reach us.
most jws were of a newer generation, eager for something to happen given the times we lived in.
JWs are so bored and tired that when 9-11 happened, it was barely a wake up call
My impression is that there's more double-thinking than ever going on among young JW. On one hand they are looking forward to the New Order but, at the same time, they are more practical than the old generation when it comes to realistically planning for their future.
For example, my younger brother, who is an active JW and Ministerial Servant, graduated from College this semester. My mother told me the other day that he was putting the money together to come to visit me in Switzerland for his next summer vacations (that is, January 2003). So, according to his schedule, Armaggedon is not due until 2004.
JJ
i don't read the bible very much.
i don't call god 'jehovah', either.. you know why, of course, both the bible and 'jehovah' make me think of the wtbts.
that, folks, is a very unpleasant memory, so if satan is living in brooklyn, he's succeeded in pushing me away from the good book.
A book I found very interesting was, "Who Wrote The Bible" by Richard Freidman
Very recomendable indeed. I also recomend "On being a Christian", by the liberal catholic theologian Hans Kunsch (a european best-seller for two decades, completely ignored by the american public).
i don't read the bible very much.
i don't call god 'jehovah', either.. you know why, of course, both the bible and 'jehovah' make me think of the wtbts.
that, folks, is a very unpleasant memory, so if satan is living in brooklyn, he's succeeded in pushing me away from the good book.
I agree with you E-man. The Bible is the product, not the cause, of Judeo-Christian thaught. Had Protestants got the point, Christianity wouldn't be as pathetically divided as it is in so many sects.
i am so ashamed to admit that i waz called a jehovahs witnesses, that sometimes i want to move & change my name!.
how many of you feel the same, or do you share the camp of those who say, "everything happens for a purpose"?
even though i have been out for about 3 yrs., i still can't believe i waz that stupid!
do you share the camp of those who say, "everything happens for a purpose"?
I have mixed feelings about it. Sometimes I wish I'd had a more normal childhood (I was "born in the truth"). But on the other hand, having been in a cult and having left, taught me to think more skeptically and to be more rigorous in my thoughts, specially about religion.
Now, those who leave the WT but go on as braindead as before, joining fundamentalist protestant churches, ... well, I think they get what they deserve.
was disfellowshipping for christians today?.
tuesday, december 11, 2001. .
in an effort to keep this as short as possible i am going to try and focus only a bare minimum of scriptures realizing that no one today appreciates too long a post.. in luke 12:48 these words are found, in part: ... to whom much was given much will be demanded.
I am going to try and focus only a bare minimum of scriptures realizing that no one today appreciates too long a post.
Actually, twisting scriptures to make a point is what no one today appreciates. It's incredible that most Americans are still trying to make sense of the Bible. Outside the US people have realized for a long time that (A) the Bible contradicts itself so many times that you can prove anything you want by picking out the right texts and (B) the world today is so different from what it was 2000 years ago that it makes little sense to transplant organizational procedures from first century Christianity.
Were any of the Popes ever associated with the followers of Christ?
John XXIII was a better follower of Christ than any of the Governing Body members (past or present).
